Doing shady stuff

So many so concerned with what others are doing......:shakehead:

Dilgent personal, reflective focus on what you consider to be "living right" is a beautiful thang! The cream always rises to the top, all by itself!

 

Now you need to PM all of us !!!
Dan F

 

My original point has continued to be lost on you and others here, doing what is right is the focus and even making fun of me towards the latter posts will not change the truth that believe it or not some do care about.

I said to take it to PM, what else do you want?? remember for lauding that you should "Live and let live" you sure are interested on what this thread has to say..............in fact I would be curious if a thread you started for any reason might have 2000 views or more? and I think you know the answer to that.

I was involved personally in this so I had a "Dog in the fight" and I was able to warn the offending party that he is better than this and should not resort to this borderline conduct in order to make yourself look better when doing the quality work does this on it's own.

People always make excuses for conduct they know is wrong but do anyway and disparage those who point it out as out of their lane and being "Drama Queen's", anyone with common sense knows that bumping a very old thread smacks of blatant self - promotion and makes you look desperate and that's the bottom line so those that choose this direction go ahead ......................but know you fool nobody but "The Fool" and his folly.

 

Me as well

 

I just think you are above/better than this man, that is all... These forums are filled with young kids still living with mom and pops trying to earn some scratch... We are grown ass men, do you really think its appropriate for a 50 something year old to be running around the internet "schooling" kids?

I agree, the focus in this thing called life should be "doing what is right" I just don't understand why you'be taken it on yourself to be "that guy"

I have several detailing related threads I've started with 2k plus views (not that this means anything).

I've given up debating the self promotion aspect of this with you....

 

Well let's hope there is "That guy" around when someone does YOU wrong, people sure put down the Police whether a real one or a "Internet one" as you all have glossed me ....................but when you need one................

That is one of the major problems today............"Just do what feels good" and wanting to be their own God with no sense of a moral center or if they know of it they ignore it because it's "Not convenient" with the above "What feels good". Everybody believes in the rule of law when someone is doing them dirty now don't they.

 

Come on man - Comparing schooling youngsters on detailing message boards to needing the assistance of a Police officer - a little self indulgent?

Seriously Bob, I think you are an intelligent, well spoken, hard working guy but this internet tough guy, policer of all things detailing immoral is a bit odd and somewhat dilutes the professional/mature image it seems you project in other areas.

I understood your beef with the Andy guy since he was directly attacking you but it just seems like a grown man would see through these internet games these kids are playing and rise above unless of course it directly impacts you as with the Andy thing

 

Let's not forget that often times there are things that happen and are said behind the scenes, so don't just go by what is written here. We all know Bob is an advocate on doing the right thing, and it's a shame that more people in general don't speak up about these things instead of just shaking their heads and moving along. To some this issue may seem petty and a non issue, but to others, for whatever reason, it is an issue and that's the way it is. I myself have had it out with many people online for calling them out on lies and wrong doings, etc, but not everybody knows about it since most of it happened in PM's, phone calls, texts, etc, and only some of it is on forums for all to see, so I know exactly where Bob is coming from.

 

As stated by George, the behind the scenes stuff if really known would cause major loss of respect.............. My tough guy act is not a act................ I walk it like I talk it and have all my adult life. The point that continues to be lost is that if nobody shows the young guys what proper conduct is then who will? .................well hardly anyone does because they are AFRAID and I am not this is established.

Going along to get along is the easy way out, and anything worth doing is worth doing right. In the past(Just a few months ago really) I re-commited to God and even so I admit truthfully I struggle with anger as when I see wrongs being committed I am not silent. Of course there are many ways to say things and sometimes my "Righteous Indignation" gets in the way of looking at how God would handle the situation with much more forgiveness and be slow to anger...............but at some point even he shows and admonishes people gently or very harshly.

The person who I directed the thread to has good qualities and does not need to resort to this stuff..................in addition at one point I was VERY hard on this guy and he deserved it as he was messing up constantly and needed some "Cowboy up" attitude. Now being judgmental just to be a "D**ck" is really not what I am about at all, but I admittedly have no patience for excuses and whiny conduct.

Someone who I am close too cannot understand why I get into it some guys, and he is right almost all the time but in this and a few other instances people need to shown that certain ways of doing things are just plain wrong and there is no way around this no matter the justifications opined. Forums should be about opinion and technical expertise but have been reduced to "I want to be a "Elite Detailer" and will do and say anything to accomplish this. If I am so out of bounds and over the top on this certain assertion contained in the thread then why do guys have buddies bump their threads or make up fake screen names? the answer is they know it's wrong and that's it in a nutshell.

 

Please PM me, then PM again. And then once more.