Thanks for understanding, yes most of the things I do are well known and everyone knows the steps, but I have re-tweaked a few things that change the results big time. In addition I use a few products that very few people know about that are new, and when some do not play fair.....(you know who you are btw) then some things have to stay within a small circle of guys who have shown solid consistant character. It is too bad it has to be this way,but the world is a cold place even though I have been "burned" a few times for my generous nature and I have excepted the fact some guys are just shady and that's that.