Paint cleaner application

Discussion in 'Last Steps: Waxes, Sealants, and Coatings' started by Simz, Apr 26, 2009.

  1. Simz

    Simz Any Rag Vehicle Washer

    What is the best way to applicate p21s paintwork cleaner or klasse a-i-o.

    And klasse or p21s ccould give no bonding issus with, cg ezcreme, jetseal and p21s 100%???
     
  2. GLuXuRy

    GLuXuRy Birth of a Detailer

    i treat paint cleaner like LSP .. apply .. let it bond and haze .. then remove

    i dont think you will have bonding issues with P21S .. not sure on KAIO .. CG EZ glaze has a mild cleaner in it too so it wont have bonding issues either

    so im sure your safe to use P21S cleaner .. then CG ez glaze .. then CG 109 .. and then top off with P21S 100%
     
  3. Nica

    Nica Banned

    I would have to agree with GLuXuRy, some paint cleaners are only wipe on wipe off, some you can apply and let it haze. I've never used the P21S but an example would be Zymol HD Cleanse Professional, if you allow this stuff to dwell on the surface for too long it's a real pain to buff off. So it really depends on the paint cleaner, just my :2cents:
     
  4. Legacy99

    Legacy99 Wax on..Wax off

    Also Swissvax and Pinnacle should not be left on to haze. These are chemical cleaners and need to wiped off before drying.
     
  5. 911Fanatic

    911Fanatic DB Pro Supporter

    Right now I'd have to say my favorite pre wax cleaner is from Raceglaze. You put it on and LET IT DRY. Just like a sealant. Wipes off like dust when its done. Sweeet!
     
  6. bcwang

    bcwang Virgin Detailer

    Now do you think paint cleaners wipe off completely clean LSP ready, or you think there will still be something left behind that should be IPA wiped before an LSP?
     
  7. GLuXuRy

    GLuXuRy Birth of a Detailer

    i think the purpose of the paint cleaner .. is to prep the surface for sealant or LSP .. cleaners or "Bonding" agent steps are made for sealant and LSP .. they help "cure"/"bond" the sealant or lsp to the surface .. so if you use a IPA wipe down .. you just removed your "bonding" agent
     
  8. bcwang

    bcwang Virgin Detailer

    Well, I don't think a paint cleaner generally comes with bonding agents. It's supposed to just clean off contaminants and old wax from the paint. However, in it's process it might leave some chemicals from the cleaner behind, which would impede LSP bonding.
     
  9. Ron1

    Ron1 Virgin Detailer

    Can't speak to the P21 but I just finished my P car using Werkstats Prime and then AJT. I used a PC with Grey pad to apply Prime. Went on very easy, let haze and wiped off with little effort. Waited for about 30 minutes and started with the AJT. Very easy on and off. another 30 minutes and another coat even less effort. By the third coat it was almost like a detail spray..
     
  10. Reflect

    Reflect DB Forum Supporter

    I always associated white pads with cleaners for some reason, such as Duragloss 501.
     

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