LCD vs PLASMA vs LED FLAT SCREEN TV'S

My TV died on me last week so its time for a replacement...

Does anyone know anything about Flat Screen TV'S ?

I only thing i know is the Size ... Prob. 55"

Does anyone know who makes the best out there...

I want at least a 120 refresh rate and 1080 full HD ...

Wireless Internet would be a bonus but not absolutely necessary ..

any suggestions boy's ?

Thanks
Howard

 

LED is a LCD tv screen with just led lights being used at blacklights instead of CCf bulbs. I was looking for a new tv few months ago and went with a Panasonic G25 plasma (Panny making some of the best plasma's and this years, 2011) being some of the best due to getting the Pioneer Kuro technology they bought year or so ago...i would recommend a plasma...you have better black levels, better high speed motion, and more consistent light levels due to individual pixel providing there own "light"

 

plasma are also brighters are cheaper at bigger sizes (also cuz they generate more heat and have an expected lifetime)
however, all down to your budget and the place you're placing it at.

 

Plazma meant to run hot and is not meant to last...stay away from it...
I have Samsung LED 55" that I bought in '09 on black Friday sale and I love it!

 

My 55" plasma heats up my living room like nothing else...... the picture on a Plasma is more fluid, and has more defined color, but if you sit at an agle its not the best picture and you need atleast 10-15 feet distance or the picture is horrible.

 

as for longevity, its subjective. Most people buy a new TV every 4-5 years. Most plasmas have a life expectency of 100k hours or more. Same with LCD, to me its personal preference. Is size versus cost important? so when someone says "plamas are not ment to last, stay away from it" that is hard to justify as a reason not to buy. unless you plan on watching over 100k hours of TV its not a factor, the part of a TV to break first is the remote control..... LOL



"Plasma TV life span expectancy has long been a hot topic and rightly so. Most early plasma monitor models from 1999 and early 2000 have already been delivered to the electronics graveyard. Manufacturers were doing well to deliver a plasma product that fired up. An early adoptor could purchase a plasma TV that was 6" in depth, was hot enough to fry an egg on, and had fans that sounded like it was going to take off and fly through the roof - all for a modest $10,000.

However, improvements in the longevity of plasma TVs and displays have been rapidly effective. The green phosphors are claimed by some manufacturers as the reason behind the incredible increase. Lower power usage and motion adaptive anti burn-in technology are also contributors.

In fact, many plasma manufacturers boast a life span of 100,000 hours to half life! This is a longer life than a tube based television. The specification is somewhat suspect since the process of determining longevity of the product is based on deductive mathematical calculation of phosphor dissipation, and does not take into account the electronic components and the myriad of problems that can occur. Panasonic was the first to claim the 60,000 hour life span, up from a previous 30,000 just a year prior and now Samsung, LG and Panasonic claim 100,000 hours to half life.

So how long will a plasma last? The long and short of it is that it depends upon your daily hourly usage as well as how you use the monitor. 4 to 55 years is my new short answer.

One practical example I will cite here is the Panasonic Tau units being used by video rental company, In Motion Pictures at major airports around the country. Most of the earlier Tau models have now been replaced by a newer model, but these plasma displays were used for 5 years and were the first generation of plasma displays to go a considerable distance. In Motion displays images on them from 6AM until 10PM daily (16 hours). By my estimates, these early plasma displays by Panasonic were in use by In Motion for around 30,000 hours or more. They never fail to catch my eye as I pass by in one airport or another to see if they are still in use. If they have lost some of their brightness level its hard to tell. This use equates to 18 years for a home owner that watches 3 hours television per day. So a 100,000 hour lifespan for a plasma TV will mean triple that to 54 years at 3 hours per day."



"How Long do HDTV Plasma TV and LCD/LED TVs last? What's the Life Span?"

I just had this conversation with my neighbor......

I think the best advice is to go to costco or wherever and look that them side by side...... or even buy one, make sure it has a return policy and test it out. Everyones room, lighting, seating is different.

 

new gen plasma's like the panny do not run that hot and have a life time (half life of the phosphers) much much higher than first gens and can live as long as most lcds do...apx 100,000 is the half life on the g25s and are getting better every year. Also plasma's have great viewing angle, can see it from the sides and color is still good.

LCDs by the nature of the little windows that create the pixles allow for lower viewing angle...AVS forums is a great place to get expert opinions and reviews.

I have a 50" plasma and in a small apartment and LOVE it...would never go back...also have d65 light behind the tv to help with contrast and eye strain when watching movies in the dark...

 

also look at the refresh rate, you can buy a great big ass LED tv with horrible refresh rate and you will get a horrible experince, check out consumer reports for some good information on what is a good TV and what is not. Also there are (correct me if im wrong) only a handfull of companies that actually build the screens, panasonic, LG, samsung and a few others. More you dig into it the better deal and value you will get.

 

All this stuff about plasma life expectancy is BS. But LED LCD screens are the new hotness because they provide a great picture while being really nice on energy. I don't know if Plasma technology is going to last considering it takes up a lot more power, the TV runs hotter, and the LED backlit display should last forever.

 

refresh rates on plasmas = godly
i think LCDs go up to 240hz these days and its 120hz static + another 120 dynamic

There are really 3 major LCD Manufacturers out there I believe,
Samsung, Sharp, LG-Philips
there are then some smaller ones like AU (taiwan) and I believe Mitsubishi also makes their own panels in Japan for domestic market
but yea the ones you see in the shelf in North America are mostly under those 3
Sony invested in Samsung's Panel production so i believe they're using Sammy panels and what you're really buying these days is the Bravia "engine"
Toshibas use LG-Philips panels with thier own Regza or smfin Engine

 

I dont think standard LCD or plasma is going to last much longer then 2011, there is no real reason to keep making them, LED is less expensive and in california they are trying to pass laws on selling TVs larger then 50" especially plasma.....

since most people buy tvs every 4 years, and most new technology is obsolete the day it hits the market, you are right. Logevity is BS, but for some people they use it as a basis too buy a product. LED or OLED is the way of the future..... bigger, more efficent and less cost.

 

For a 55", you can go wrong with Samsung or Sony LED-LCD panels..... but i am biased because i am really looking at Sony's products. And Sony uses Sammy's panels anyway the only difference there is Sony's internals and magic/wizardy hehe.

Sammy's Flagship UN55C9000 is gorgeous...... and is priced as such.... $4500 WOWZA!!!!


What is your budget BTW?

 

in that case why are plazmas so much cheaper (in general) then LCD/LED TVs? I remember when they first came out, they cost $10k a piece, and now manufacturers are having hard time selling them for under $1k...they heat up (use way too much electricity, producing unnecessary heat which you will hate during summer), picture quality is not the best (like you mentioned), so WTF would you wanna buy one? There are better choices out there!
Decisions, decisions...

 

plasma manufacturing is cheaper than LCD i believe
LCD prob has higher failure rate from manufacturing than Plasma (dead pixels and such)
and LCD = cut out from a bigger board thus gotta work out optimal cuts (thus we have price jumps and cheaper sizes at times)

 

:thumb:I bought mine 4 years ago. Have not had a single issue... just hot.

As for why they are less expensive. supply and demand...... If you noticed most if all TVs are much less then a year ago, well as the economy fell, so did demand. But with that said, many of the manf. and suppliers over ordered so on the supply side there was a glut of products. So by dropping the prices it was to hopefully stimumlate demand and move the old inventory out. Plasmas are also less expenisve to manuf. The sheet of glass on a plasma is far less then the Screen on a LCD...

Cnet ran a big story about this oversupply in november, and how costs of tvs could fall 20, even 30% before Xmas....

I dont have allegience to my plasma, like stated i plan on getting a new one anyway, mine is 4 years old, ,... and using the plasma for my gaming. As for picture quality, the quality is better in certain aspects then LED, but again. its all subjective to the buyer..

People buy them because they can get a bigger TV for less money then a comprable sized LED... and since LED is the new Tech the companies are pushing they want to dump on the market the remaining plasmas and standard LCD.


IM not trying to argue about cost, each TV has its own attributes..... some people are fanboys for LED, LCD and plasma. Each person should educate themselves on the features and benifits of both.....

Crutchfield and Cnet have great information about products.

I would get the biggest thinnist LED I could find.

Back to the OP question, Im looking at LG and samsung, I think costco has some great deals as does crutchfield.....

 

It all depends on what you want, Howard. If you're anything like me and all you want is to be able to follow the hockey puck on the screen, just get yourself an LG LCD and have it calibrated. BOOM you're done! (I got myself the 37" LG 1080p, no Internet, but I hooked up my PC to it to use it as my screen) AND they aren't that expensive. I got mine for $507 tax in.

 

Plasma's dont use that much more energy vs. lcd/led tv...maybe few cents a day...there was a report on that using meters to calc energy usage. Large plasma's are cheaper due to the technology, large lcd screens are more epensive to make due to the three filters needed to create the screen vs the piixle array used in plasma's. Best way to see what you like is to get one and try it out in YOUR house..most placse will take tvs back w/o issues...

also if you have a bery bright room (direct sun-light lcd tech may be better) if you have darker room or like watching tv's then go with plasma as you will get true blacks and not a gray-ish baclk.

Also any tv you get a isf calibration...may cost $300-500 but you will get the full potential of your tv.

 

I have a 55" LCD (1.5 yrs old), 50" LED (8 months old) and 42" Plasma (x-mas) in my household. The plasma is in my sons game room which is dark, long and used 95% for gaming 5% for blue ray.

Different technology for different uses....

 

You hit the model number on the head ! Can't believe that ... I started with that model and now looking for others to compare to at a more reasonable price. Is that the Retail price ? Can i get a better deal on Amazon or other etailer ?

 

Crap that makes it even more difficult ....

Ok QUESTION ! If You were going to watch the Super Bowl or the Oscar's which TV would be your goto for the event ?

Please dont say one model for sports and another for the Oscar's .. :yikes: