Gonna pick up a one step polish but having a hard time deciding on which one I should go so I'm gonna ask for your guys opinions. The following are the polishes that are being considered: Menzerna power finish Menzerna fast gloss (too aggressive and will leave haze for one step?) Sonax perfect finish Also the car that I will be working on is a black sapphire metallic bmw using a da polisher.
Sonax Perfect Finish will leave a beautiful finish but doesn't have as much cut as FG400, but more than Power Finish. FG400 leaves a finish good enough to go to LSP after, but not as glossy as Sonax. I have both of these and use them for one steps although I do tend to use the FG400 more as it has more cut. The new version of Power Finish is closer to that of a finish polish in cutting ability so unless the car is near mint, I wouldn't bother with it. As well, the FG400 and Sonax PF will be polishes you will use more often.
It definitely has more than the new formula. I've been out of the old formula for awhile so can't compare the two.
Well....it's kinda hard for me to NOT to reply to these threads. But I'll share a small dose of honesty, and you can take it for what it's worth. Despite being a rep for Adam's Polishes, I totally understand there's TONS of options out there, and my opinion is unbiased. I've used FG400 in the past, and still have some in my arsenal. Honestly....probably always will, just for the simple fact it's crazy how different paints respond to different polishes. But if you haven't given our new Paint Correction Polish a shot.....you're TRULY missing out!!! As part of my role with Adam's (and as a detailer for a career) is testing & trying new products. In comparison to what you've offered for your options, our new Paint Correction Polish cuts like MAD, and finishes down like heaven. http://www.adamspolishes.com/p-942-new-adams-paint-correcting-polish.aspx The only thing I'd add, is that we also offer a 110% money-back guarantee, the only company in the industry that does that, along with being MADE IN THE USA. And if that's not good enough for ya, shoot me a PM and I'll personally buy it from ya, I use it DAILY. But that's if you don't absolutely LOVE it.....so I'm not worried anyway, lol.
The older PF is great, you would be surprised how well it does just by switching the pads, I use PF with orange or Green pads, but again it is all dependent on what kind of car you are working with. PF is very versatile, and alot of people here will attest to that
I didnt know Sonax made a new Verison of PF? When did that happen? And how do i tell if mine is new or old formula?
I believe he is referring to Menzerna Power Finish, not Sonax Perfect Finish. The older version of Power Finish had more cutting ability than the new formula. But Sonax perfect finish would probably be a very close match to what it used to be.
Wouldn't SIP be a better choice over FG400 as a 1 step? FG is pretty aggressive. Personally I feel like PF2500 cuts faster than Perfect Finish.
Except if you need more cut where 2500 won't get you the correction you need, on medium to hard clear coats FG400 finishes LSP ready.
I honestly don't have a "go to" 1-step polish. There are so many variables that come into play that it's best to just have a lot of options and make the choice based on paint condition and how it responds to polishing. Color can come into play as well and you have to decide if you want more correction or more gloss...it's always a balancing act with 1-step jobs. With lighter colors I'll tend to go for more correction as the difference in gloss won't be as noticeable as it would be on black...that and a client will likely notice the removal of swirls and scratches long before he notices a difference in gloss. Polishes I'll use or have used for 1-steps: M205 PF2500 SF4000 D300 FG400 Hyper Polish HD Polish HD Adapt SPF Just my $.02 Rasky
Interesting. While the comparison seemed to be using the products outside of their "intended use," it does appear that Power Finish has slightly more cut than Sonax Perfect Finish: The Ultimate 1-Step Showdown! - Autopia Forums - Auto Detailing & Car Care Discussion Forum
Different pads, speeds, paint etc are all variables that will affect performance. Whilst the Power Finish did score a bit better on this test, the results may not be the same in a test on harder paint etc.
I tend to blend D300, M105 and M101 depending on what works, sometimes it's just M105 and vary the pads and technique. That's the thing, varibles - you have heat, humidity, condition of paint - all these change, so -I try to vary my methods with just pads and technique and do the polish thing on a sliding scale. That is start with D300 and then add / replace, adapt and refine - then go for it. I've finally got it through my thick skull that spending time on the front end (getting the process down) saves time, as opposed to "working" through a PITA detail that fights correction at every turn. It's an acquired skill, and for my customers - who think a 1 step is "IT" and will only pay for that, it's paid off big time. BTW - I do daily drivers and lots of big ol trucks, so that Peeble Beach finish would be like a Gucci saddle on a mule.
Im with Ken on the merits of Sonax Profiline Perfect Finish 4/6 (cut of 4 out of 6,, gloss of 6 out of 6) It cuts great - you need to put pressure on it initially, with slower speeds and then up the speed and less pressure. It is very, very, clean, and will not leave residue in your pads like some compounds do. It leaves the paint "squeaky clean", if you know what I mean.. I personally would rather have less "cut" and adjust the pad to make up more "cut", if I need it. It also wipes off really easy and you will not need as many towels (which will also clean very easy), to correct a vehicle. With a Rotary, this has been a game changer for me, and as much as I love Menzerna products and have been using them for years, this Sonax product is really been good to me.. I can make it a 1-step all day long and that alone is a huge time saver. Just did a 2006 Audi A6 in Pewter, 71k miles, pretty spiderwebby from the carwash, but the hard Audi paint worked good to prevent it from looking worse.. Used the Sonax product with a Rotary and a 6" Lake Country Hydro-Shred Tangerine Pad, and I was done going all around that big beast in 8 hours, using 3 - 6" and 1 - 4" pad. Since I don't swirl paintwork, I wiped it down and applied Sonax Polymer NetShield, it dried and cured overnight, and today the finish is Amazingly glossy, perfectly smooth, clear paintwork.. Even had to take time out to cut out a couple of long, wide lines on one door, where they scraped it along Im guessing, the inside of the garage opening.. Used Meguiars 101 on a 3" purple foam 3m pad to cut out the nastiness and then went over it with the above combo... Now, I'm not selling it or getting paid to talk about it, but guys, this stuff is really darn nice and there is no need for me to use something else to bring up the gloss. It finishes down with my combinations just beautifully.. Dan F
