PermaPlate Paintguard

Discussion in 'Last Steps: Waxes, Sealants, and Coatings' started by sikedsyko, Jun 28, 2012.

  1. sikedsyko

    sikedsyko DB Forum Supporter

    Anyone heard of this stuff? It sounds like an OEM applied nano-sealant similar to Opti-Coat. A guy I know just bought a 2013 Mustang GT, that had this installed as an option by the dealer. However, he said he's already seeing swirling in the finish and has been looking into paint correction. I told him polishing would probably remove this coating and take it back the the car's clear coat, similar to Opti-Coat.

    Any input would be appreciated. Here's a link to their site.

    http://permaplate.com/cms/index.php/products-paintguard.html
     
  2. Kaban

    Kaban Welcome to Detailing

    there probably isn't anything that's gonna stop swirling altogether. tell your friend it's the way you wash it that minimizes or maximizes the amount of swirls that are added.
     
  3. sikedsyko

    sikedsyko DB Forum Supporter

    Oh, well what I'm really trrying to find out is, if this stuff will come off with compounding?
     
  4. DJBAILEY

    DJBAILEY Birth of a Detailer

    The swirling is most likely htrough the layer of coating and into the clear coat. So if you compound to remove those swirls you would have to remove some clear coat and therefore the coating would have been removed first before you got deep enough to start removing the clear coat.
     
  5. togwt

    togwt Nuba Guru

    Xzilon, Simonize, Perma-Plate, DuPont PTFE™, are a few examples of this type of product.

    There is no polymer, synthetic or natural wax, or after-market product available that can provide a five year or lifetime protection to a paint film surface; read the fine print in the contract offered by car dealerships. PPG / Mercedes-Benz invested a lot of money in R&D for their nanotechnology 'CeramiClear' coating that is considered the longest lasting automotive coating to-date, but there is no 'lifetime' warranty given

    There is normally a clause that states you should return the vehicle for a "maintenance" application of the product (at 3 or 6 months intervals) failing to do this will void your warranty or the fine print will basically exclude every condition you could claim against

    The primary protection provided for a modern water-based colour coat is a polythene paint that has a thickness of (127 - 178 µ) comprise a Primer coat of 2Mils (50 µ) a Colour coat of 1-2Mils (25 -50 µ) and Clear coat 2-3Mils (50 - 75 µ) An applied paint protection product is the entire barrier that provides protection for automotive paintwork besides the clear coat paint and this renewable barrier is probably less than 0.001Mil (0.0254 µ)

    While it’s true that a polymer paints melting point is 350oF +, it is still subject to evaporation and erosion by the elements and vehicle washing. However its durability is approximately five or six months.

    The technology for a lifetime protection for a vehicles paint film surface does not currently exist. Most dealerships rely on the fact that few customers read the fine print on the contract; it usually states that it must be reapplied every 6 months and every 3 months on darker coloured cars (for which a service charge will apply).

    While it will not provide ‘lifetime’ protection Optimum Polymer Technologies Opti-Coat™ has been applied and tested with a real life durability of ~ 3 years. This semi-permanent coating pre- polymer resin cross links and forms a continuous film on the surfaces, it also contains ultra violet (UV) protection. Its application is similar to that of a single component Isocyanate that forms an approx 2-4 µ (microns) thickness clear coat type finish.
     
  6. tfish1

    tfish1 Birth of a Detailer

    Ive polished this stuff off before and a list of other things similar it is a bit bit tougher than usual but once gone its butter
     
  7. sikedsyko

    sikedsyko DB Forum Supporter

    Thanks guys! That was the info I was looking for.
     

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