Applying liquid wax/sealant with detail spray

I have been reading online that there are detailers that use menzerna powerlock and get as many as 200 cars per 32 oz bottle. one told me that he is using a small dime sized amount of menz powerlock to do an entire car on one lc gold finessing pad and doing the entire car. I was shocked!

he would not tell me how he is doing this but told me that with this method he has seen the sealant last as long as 6 months (still beading).

the only thing I can think he is doing is applying a dime sized amount of sealant to the pad, spreading it in with fingers to the pad and then spritsing the pad with some detailer spray to lube up the pad and then hitting the entire car.

any opinions on this? I really would like to find out how using this little product can be done and if any of you are doing the same.

thanks

godoman

 

I can see getting alot of mileage out of a 32 oz bottle, its pretty fluid and lasts a while on a black uber pad.

I can see getting maybe 40 -50 cars out of a 32 oz bottle, if you are using it correctly, and not saturating your pad, I figure .5 -1.0 oz per car per coat is average for me. You should measure it out and try it, see how far an oz will go on an average car that you are doing. I use less then an oz on my suburban and that is being generous and that is one coat.

For me its about making the car the best I can, not penny pinching and seeing how far I can stretch a $40.00 bottle of sealant; if $40.00 is a concern enough to be trying to stretch out a bottle on a paying customers car, then you are probably in the wrong business.



Detailing products are consumables and to me that is just taking it to an absurd level.... IMO

 

oh no, dont get me wrong.

I simply had a discussion with someone else that use's powerlock on his customer's cars and he told me infront of everyone that he gets about 200 cars per bottle. this really spurred my interest and made me want to explore this.

I share the same point of view as you. if I could, I would have every customer's car for half a day to a day and use whatever I wanted and as much of it as i wanted to as long as the car came out the way "I" wanted it to because I know the customer's aggree with the results I go for.

just trying to get feedback on this. want to hear from all of you on any methods like this.

godoman

 

I've never heard of "watering down" MPL to extend its range, and it sounds like he is full of corn filled poop......... its like bragging you got a deal on something that is arbitrary and doesn't matter either way. LOL


good for him, if he can get 200 cars out of a bottle, he needs to prove it......... LOL

 

yeah, I figured....still wanted to hear what you guys thought about it and .....there it is

thanks

godoman

 

If he is throwing out a rounded, even number like "200" he could have done far less.

If he really did do a crazy ton of cars he would have given you an exact number.

I imagine the point he is trying to make is he can do a lot of cars..not necessarily that he has done 200. Heck, even doing 40 cars sounds like a lot.

 

I totally agree with you "Chaseme." I made it really obvious to the guy that I was blown away with such a high number but he was trying to point out that how many cars did not matter but how long his method lasted after six months. I was stumped....

to clear it up, I wrote to menzerna right after I posted up this write up. I want to hear directly from them on what they think is the proper amount per application and if using detail sprays to lube up the pad and further spread the sealant works.

I am betting I/we already no the answer.

godoman

 

Power Lock certainly lasts a very long time. You don't have to use a lot of it and it goes a long way once the applicator is saturated.

I would just advise everyone to use a "shallow" pad or applicator as when you use a thicker one, a lot of product is wasted.

 

what is a good shallow pad if you are using a DA?

 

Interesting thread--

Godoman, you had the guy in front of you and you didn't ask him to share his method with you ? I would have asked him straight out how he did this. But that's just me..

Regarding application of Menzerna Power Lock, I never use a D/A, but instead find the round little yellow foam pads that are pretty thin, and apply it by hand. It doesnt have to be rubbed in hard or anything, so it goes really fast, and I have very little wasted product when Im done..

If I was going to ever use a D/A and a pad I would probably think about using those thin pads that TID was selling - believe they were all Hydro pads that were thinner than the normal sized one to help Detailers get a better "feel" for how their work was going.

And then, TID was selling those Hydro pads in another variation with a special backing plate that were really thin and were supposed to be one use and throw away. - maybe those would work for applying LSP's, in the Crimson color ?

Dan F

 

Thanks dan

U r right, I should have tried asking him his method but was not there to spy on his business but rather see if he could help me with what I was trying to do in mind. He still was helpful in pointing out to me that the lc gold pads r better than the pads I was using because they don't absorb the product and keep it on the surface

Guess I figured it was rude or too intrusive to ask him his method. I admit that I am guilty of keeping methods to myself that I have devoted a ton o time and money to develope. If others were to simply take my way of doing things I would feel ripped off.

Good stuff. I will let u guys know what menzerna says and keep the good info coming guys

Godoman