Product Review: Pre-Wow & Black Wow

Discussion in 'Car Detailing Product Discussion' started by TroyScherer, Apr 25, 2011.

  1. TroyScherer

    TroyScherer DB Forum Supporter

    Pre-Wow & Black Wow Review

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    Manufacturers Description:

    -Pre-Wow: Pre-WOW is extremely concentrated. Start with a pea-sized amount on a clean applicator. Wipe on Pre-WOW and rub until the trim piece appears clean. For stubborn spots, you can use the Pre-WOW Trim Detailing Brush. The stiff bristles will loosen dirt and wax buildup.

    -Black Wow is a matte finish trim restorer for all colored, smooth and lightly textured trim. Black Wow instantly restores the dark, even color to the trim. A single thin coat lasts for months through rain storms, car washes, and day-to-day driving. Black WOW works on all unpainted plastic trim, regardless of the color. Black WOW contains no dye or colorants.


    Product Observations:
    1. Manufacturer: Black Wow
    2. Made in: U.S.A.
    3. Packaging:
    A. Pre-Wow: 4oz. Spray Bottle​
    B. Black Wow: 2oz. Flip Top Bottle​
    C. Pre-Wow Trim Brush ​
    3. Color:
    A. Pre-Wow: Translucent Purple​
    B. Black Wow: Translucent Orange​
    7. Scent: T.B.D. – Sniffer is out this week.
    8. Consistency:
    A. Pre-Wow: Thin Liquid​
    B. Black Wow: Syrup​
    9. Price: $35 – 4oz Pre-Wow & 2oz. Black Wow
    10. Directions for Black Wow: Apply Black Wow before washing your vehicle. Use a Poly Foam Wax Applicator and spread a pea-sized amount evenly on the trim. Apply a very thin coat. Buff off excess with a lint-free Microfiber Cloth. (Use a separate towel than the ones you use on the paint.) Then wash the vehicle and use the wash sponge to wipe down the trim. Towel dry.


    Test Subject
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    Application:
    1. I started by rinsing the rear bumper.
    2. I washed the bumper using Megs Shampoo Plus & APC w/ a single bucket & Grit Guard.
    3. Re-Rinsed Bumper
    4. Dried Bumper using a terry Cloth Towel (Due to previously applied Trim Restorer.)
    5. Taped off Bumper for test I am working on for the Future.
    6. Applied Pre-Wow to Selected areas and spread using Microfiber Applicator.
    7. Pre-Wow Trim Brush was used to thoroughly clean the selected areas.
    8. Used a clean Terry Cloth Towel to Buff Pre-Wow Off.
    9. Applied Black Wow to Selected Areas.
    10. Buffed off Black Wow using a clean Terry Cloth Towel.


    Application Photos:

    Wash
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    Bumper Clean
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    Pre-Wow Application
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    Pre-Wow Buffed Off
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    Black Wow on Applicator
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    Black Wow Applied
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    Broad Shot of Future Test
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    Notes & Observations:

    - I need to find better test subject to test the true cleaning ability of Pre-Wow
    - Pre-Wow did seem to clean up the bumper that I regularly clean and apply PBTR.
    - I’m not sure that Pre-Wow cleans any better than my regular APC but I would want to test this on a piece of trim with wax residue.
    - I do like that Black Wow was a little thicker syrup and not watery like PB TR.
    - A pea sized amount was able to all of the test sections.
    - It spread out nicely and evenly.
    - Black Wow was slightly shinier that the PBTR that I normally use.
    - Based on cost I’m not sure I would pick Black Wow as my trim product.
    o 2oz Black Wow - $15.99​
    o 16oz Poorboy’s Trim Restorer - $14.99​
    o At this price difference the Black Wow would need to last about 8x longer than PBTR for me to switch.​
     
  2. JC98

    JC98 Birth of a Detailer

    Nice write up! Keep us posted with the results.
     
  3. astro_ng

    astro_ng Jedi Nuba

    Good review, let us know the longevity of the product vs your PB's!
     
  4. Richard@BlackWow

    Richard@BlackWow DB Certified Manufacturer

    Nice writeup..can I make a few suggestions?

    "Pre-WOW"
    1.) The recommended wipe off applicator for PW is a painters rag...the kind of towels you find in a Motel 6 bathroom or get a 12 pack for $6 from Home Depot. That's what I found to work best. Also, PW was intended to remove dried wax and polish. I didn't see such thing on your trim. Comparing PW to APC isn't exactly a fair comparison in this case as PW isn't intended to be an APC.

    2.) It's best to let PW fully dry before applying BW as the temporary darkening effects of PW can be deceiving. Take for example, you treat the area with PW, and it looks great, so you put on BW, but put it on unevenly without realizing it. When the PW dries out, the surface will look uneven due to uneven application.

    3.) PW needs to be worked in to be effective. This was by design as we didn't want to create a product that would strip the good wax due to overspray. If you get some PW on a just waxed area, a light wipe with a MF towel should preserve the existing wax, but if you buff it hard, it will likely take it off.

    "Black WOW"
    1.) The single most important application technique for BW is to let if FULLY ABSORB before washing the vehicle. How long it takes to absorb and when it needs to be reapplied is part of the technique and varies on the age and condition of the plastic.

    2.) Because BW relies on the ability to be absorbed, some materials don't absorb well, or were pretreated with another product that inhibits this, or are too porous, like rubber..so results can vary. The final look of BW is matte, not shiny. If it's shiny, it's still wet.

    3.) One thing people fail to realize when comparing price is the longevity of a single bottle. The average buyer of the original sized 4oz Black Wow still had over 2/3'rds of a bottle left after 4 years. At that rate, in 4 years, that's more than half a bottle left. Even better that the shelf life is indefinite and I've subjected it to repeated Freeze/Thaw tests without any issues. To say that BW needs to last 8 times longer than your PB's product is setting yourself and everyone else up for disappointment. How about comparing how long a bottle lasts instead of the actual application?
     
  5. Kilo6_one

    Kilo6_one DB Forum Supporter

    Im going on 4 monthes on one of my suburbans, it has the black plastic fender flares....... still looks good, no fading etc, and it has rained, and I even took it snowmobiling and it had snow sit on it for two days. Very Very durable and well worth the price IMO.
     
  6. TroyScherer

    TroyScherer DB Forum Supporter

    Richard, I really appreciate your input on these products.

    I have always used a clean White Terry cloth Towel because I have found that once you get silicone into your good MF towels you may never get it out. I am have to go pick up some painters rags to better buff off the PW.
    I did note in my test that I didn't really have any dried on wax to test the true cleaning ability of PW on and that I will be looking for a good test subject in the near future. I was simply trying to see and test if pre-cleaning w/ PW gave a better base for BW to adhere to.

    I'm glad you brought this up. When I applied the PW I did notice a darkening effect. I did let it dry approx 15 min but the trim was still a shade darker than the other trim. I most likely should have left it dry longer. I read the directions on the bottle as well as on an online vendor and didn't see any note about making sure the PW had dried. This may be something to add to the directions on the bottle in the future.

    This is good to know as an APC mixture could strip the wax off w/o and buffing.

    I do feel like I had a goo grasp on this as my application went on very nice and I didn't get any of the streaking that other tests have commented on.

    This may be true but I still feel that BW has a little bit more sheen compared to PBTR on my application. I did go back over all of the products that were applied for my upcoming test and buff them dry. Once I did this the BW dry to the touch as was the PBTR.

    You are the vendor and you have a valid point. But IMHO for me to validate the price difference and switch what I have been using on trim for details the product would have to last longer and in the end be cost effective. I do have a bottle of PBTR and now BW. This may be a great test to see how long it take to use a predetermined amount when placed 50/50 on a windshield cowl or bumper. My comment was not meant to be derogatory towards the product simply a comment on price per ounce and what it would to get the same price per use. After further testing I may choose to switch to BW as my trim product but these were my initial thoughts and findings
     
  7. aowheels

    aowheels DB Pro Supporter

    This will be brief. This is the BEST exterior trim product! EVER

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  8. Derek37

    Derek37 Any Rag Vehicle Washer

    I dig it. Put in on and fugetaboutit. It lasts. A long time. Thanks for a great product Black Wow. I've never tried PBTR.
     
  9. jsraaf

    jsraaf Any Rag Vehicle Washer

    Never used Black Wow, so I can't compare, but just got a bottle of PBTR and used it on a couple vehicles. Looks great, went on like a dream. Time will tell on the durability, but it's been about 2-3 weeks now and trim applied to is still looking good.
     
  10. Richard@BlackWow

    Richard@BlackWow DB Certified Manufacturer

    Thanks for the kind words!!!
    I like that slogan.....put it on and fugetaboutit....lol. Awesome! Always appreciate the feedback!

    Richard

     
  11. Derek37

    Derek37 Any Rag Vehicle Washer

    Oh, and Troy, that was a great write up. Thanks for your time.
     
  12. TroyScherer

    TroyScherer DB Forum Supporter



    Thanks for the kind words.
     

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