Colli 845, cleaners, and layering

Discussion in 'Last Steps: Waxes, Sealants, and Coatings' started by Xcessiv, May 13, 2010.

  1. Xcessiv

    Xcessiv Birth of a Detailer

    Hello,

    I was wondering what was the best layering strategy with regards to Colli 845. I really like to get the best of each product, but I'm worried that 845 contains cleaners that would prevent me from doing so.

    For example, would it be possible to layer:
    -1x Klasse SG, waiting 24 hours
    -1x Colli 845, waiting 24 hours
    -1x Fuzion

    Would 845 affect SG?

    Or, for example:
    - 2x Colli 845 w/ ~4 hours of curing time
    - 1x M16

    Would the second layer or 845 affect the first layer?

    Since 845 isn't a real synthetic sealant, would topping it with a carnauba wax affect it?

    Or if I should stick to 1 product and I'm losing my money/time?
     
  2. Misha

    Misha Nuba Guru

    im sure you can layer 845 if you wait 24 hours till first layer cures. how about using 915 as well on top of 845? i like fusion, did you try putting it on top of blackfire?
     
  3. Xcessiv

    Xcessiv Birth of a Detailer

    I tried Fuzion on top of Wolfgang sealant 3.0 and wasn't impressed. Since Fuzion is best used on metallic colors, I prefer to use the reflective property of for example Klasse SG or 845 then topped with Fuzion that improves the flake/deepness.
     
  4. Misha

    Misha Nuba Guru

    never tried fuzion on top of 845 but probably can, but i like how fuzion looks on top of blackfire
    looked a lot better in person
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    but then again this is just after blackfire
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  5. Xcessiv

    Xcessiv Birth of a Detailer

    Here's 2x Klasse SG topped with Fuzion:
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    As I said, on metallic colors, I prefer to combine a reflective sealant with the property of Fuzion.

    On this blue NSX, I would have replaced Fuzion by Souveran paste... Blackfire/Jetseal/Wolfgang 3.0 followed by Souveran.
     
  6. Emile

    Emile Welcome to Detailing

    Collinite contains no cleaners or abrasives so it can go on top of anything but I don't understand using Klasse SG and then putting Collinite 845 on top of that. Use one or the other.

    I would go, either 1x Klasse SG and then to Fuzion. Or 845 and then to Fuzion.

    Or do the 2x Collinite and then top it with whatever.
     
  7. Xcessiv

    Xcessiv Birth of a Detailer

    This leads to my next question: what's best in term of reflectivity / durability / clear non muting finish? Klasse SG or 845?
     
  8. billyblooshoes

    billyblooshoes DB Forum Supporter

    I wouldn't reccommend putting 845 on top of anything as its a solvent based product and contains petrolium distillates. In theory, it would damage or remove a layer of protection under it, unless its being layered on top of itself. 845 is so durable I don't see the point of putting anything under it anyways. You can always top it with a good 'nuba for that extra pop and protection if you'd like tho.
     
  9. froboy272

    froboy272 Obsessive Detailer

    What about putting 845 over EZ Creme Glaze?
     
  10. luke093

    luke093 Welcome to Detailing

    Stole the words from my mouth! I'm planning to do this route in the summer.
     
  11. ps3king

    ps3king Jedi Nuba

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