Liquid Glass Legend

Discussion in 'Last Steps: Waxes, Sealants, and Coatings' started by agpatel, Apr 23, 2010.

  1. agpatel

    agpatel OD On Detailing

  2. Dust2Glory

    Dust2Glory Nuba Guru

    HOLY CRAP!!! $90 for a bottle!!!!! AG has gone nuts!!!

    25 coats and it's stone chip resistant.... hahaha
     
  3. agpatel

    agpatel OD On Detailing

    Well funny thing I find is people still think PTFE will do something when you put it in a sealant or wax, they dont realize it takes very high heat and some strong acids to bond PTFE to anything and well it does not look clear but a opaque look. If it was crystal clear I think you would have a car company coat cars when the paint is baked on at the factory but it is not clear. $90/bottle is pretty darn high, just caught my eye and wondered if anyone has heard of it or even used it. Did some searching and did not find too much more information other than manuf. information.
     
  4. 02blackout

    02blackout DB Forum Supporter

    Hahaha yeah I know right. I'm reaaally going to put 25 coats of it on my glass. :lol2:
    I'll stick to 2 coats of Klasse AIO :thumb:
     
  5. agpatel

    agpatel OD On Detailing

    It is actually for paint not for glass :)
     
  6. 02blackout

    02blackout DB Forum Supporter

    Make me some breakfast :p:
     
  7. agpatel

    agpatel OD On Detailing

    Hmm....I would but you are not close by....sorry no french toast for you!
     
  8. zachc

    zachc Two Bucket System Washer

    agpatel is right, PTFE is not really going to help with the durability, but it would certainly help with the aerodynamics as it has extremely low friction, but for $90 bucks not for me. I wonder how clear of a shine you would still have after 25 coats of that stuff.
     
  9. TexasTB

    TexasTB Obsessive Detailer

    AG price things high? Noooooooo! I found a few brushes that are the same at Autozone for half their price. And I bought a LEATHER BRUSH from them, but guess they forgot to take off the NAIL BRUSH sticker before they sent it to me......
    And yes, that is an inflated price. 90 bucks...wow.
     
  10. togwt

    togwt Nuba Guru

    Unless you can apply PTFE to a surface and heat it to 600.oF it has no value to a vehicle surface other than providing lubricity to car care products (then they can rightfully claim 'it contains PTFE')


    DuPont Teflon® PTFE

    [: a polymer of the monomer tetrafluoroethylene]

    Is not as many people assume a spin-off from space exploration, as it was first discovered in 1938, Teflon® will help ‘spread ability’ (but then so do silicone oils) but it does nothing for durability because of its required application method, although Teflon® is an exceptional product when used as intended; it provides no benefit in a wax or polish. Teflon is a powder that melts at 600.oF or dissolves in fluorinated solvents such as Freon. Those are the only known ways to liquefy Teflon. If it cannot be made into a liquid it cannot stay on a surface.
    Teflon® will help ‘spread ability’ (but then so do silicone oils) it does nothing for durability because of its required application method-although Teflon® is an exceptional product when used as intended; it provides no benefit in a wax or polish.

    Six Basic Types of DuPont? Teflon® Coatings
     
  11. greased

    greased Any Rag Vehicle Washer

    The link you provide says that PTFE is only available in liquid form...
     
  12. Dsoto87

    Dsoto87 Jedi Nuba

    Are you kidding me man? The accessories you bought in no way compares to this item. Do you really think theyre getting this for $10 and marking it up to $90

    SUGGESTED RETAIL PRICE: $99.95

    Take a look at some other sites, its actually selling higher than AGs $80 price.








    As for the item itself, it looks to me like Liquid Glass is trying to break into the enthusiast/boutique market. Its quite a big claim to say that after 25 coats it becomes stone chip resistant. I would love to try some out just because the claims are so big but no way will I pay $80 for it. Id also like to know how it will look after these 25 coats. If it actually becomes resistant to chips, how clear will the finish look?
     
  13. supercharged

    supercharged DB Forum Supporter

    at that price it's more expensive then G-techniq C1, which I'm sure will outlast Liquid Glass...
     
  14. agpatel

    agpatel OD On Detailing

    Not only cheaper but has some great reviews from trusted people.

    I am on the fence about getting c1 still...my g1 came in yesterday.
     
  15. detailjohn

    detailjohn Detailers Advertising Scheme

    The description of the product doesn't really say much about the chemistry. It says it contains carbon, does it contain carbon nano-tubes? How is it bonding? Covalent or Ionic? I have not used this product, but from the description it sounds like they're just putting some hot keywords in the product that aren't actually active. Just like togwt says.


    John
     
  16. RNickolas

    RNickolas Obsessive Detailer

    lol why not, if companies can charge $100+ for carnauba why not sealants (fuzion, project awesome/signature gloss, etc)
     
  17. christian900se

    christian900se Obsessive Detailer

    I thought about this and thought it sounded plausible in my mind so bear with me. What if you have PTFE suspended in solvents of a typical sealant? It would not necessarily need to adhere to a paint surface but rather be contained within the layer of polymers and chemicals left behind as the protective property of sealant. Since PTFE particles possess the anti-stick properties and would be suspended within this layer, that would provide a medium for their non stick property to resist water, bugs and contaminants potentially.

    Even still, I do not believe any of those claims besides the regular duties any sealant provides.
     
  18. Bunky

    Bunky Guest

    When I see a product (other than cookware) that uses the word Teflon I always think marketing gimmick. It has been added to lubricants too in a similar manner/
     

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