Klasse Twins

Discussion in 'Last Steps: Waxes, Sealants, and Coatings' started by star1maker, Apr 2, 2009.

  1. star1maker

    star1maker Any Rag Vehicle Washer

    Are they really that hard to buff out?
    I searched and read a couple of threads....people have an easy time putting it on, but when it comes time to take it off, it seems like they had a work out.

    Someone had stated that putting it through a spray would be better, but how does that work?
    Straight aio and or/SG through the sprayer or is it a mix with dilluted water?
     
  2. star1maker

    star1maker Any Rag Vehicle Washer

    Also what is the proper method for applying them.

    Is it better to use the WOWO method, or do I need to let it sit for a certain amount of time (I've read anywhere from 30 min, to 8-12 hours)
    From an article here I heard WOWO method is to be used....but don't sealants need time to cure or is that just waxes?
     
  3. euroslvt

    euroslvt Any Rag Vehicle Washer

    Every time I have used the sealant (gray bottle) I did the WOWO method. If it sat any longer then a minute, it was very hard to remove.
     
  4. odgaard

    odgaard Birth of a Detailer

    When do you guys use klasse (if u do)? Just as a single step poslish (AIO) then follow with the sealant?

    If you go to superiorcarcare.com they have a good explanation on hot to apply/remove both products. I'm on my phone or else I'd give u the link. Just some info I found, I'm not associated with them. Hope this helps
     
  5. kenny1775

    kenny1775 Jedi Nuba

    I've found the AIO very easy to work with, but the HGSG is just way too much work for me..

    I always end up topping AIO with a non-Klasse product (my current favourite is P21S)
     
  6. star1maker

    star1maker Any Rag Vehicle Washer

    O okay so aio is easy to work with...you think it could be topped with some other sealant like z2, z5 or DG105 without having issues?
     
  7. vicman17

    vicman17 Virgin Detailer

    Klasse AIO (Red bottle) is very easy to apply. Either a damp MF applicator or a finishing / polishing pad on DA. Neat thing is that AIO also works well on glass / mirrors and glossy plastic trim and lenses. Very little goes a long way, so don't over apply. Not too long of a curing time, usually 30 mins or so then buff off with a MF cloth. Klasse SG (Silver bottle) is a little more trickier. Wipe On Wipe Off (WOWO) worked best for me. A damp (not wet) MF or sponge pad to apply and a dry MF towel to buff off right away. I make it a 2-hand job (or if you have a teenager helper around to do the buffing). Don't let the SG dry like the instructions call for. If SG starts to streak, you've put too much. Just re-apply, thin it out and buff off right away.

    I've used the Klasse twins for the past 3 years with little trial and error and developed a good combo step(s) that worked for me. Usually 3-4 layers of SG spaced 24 hours apart. The depth of SG usually comes out after the second layer. A sacrificial layer of Carnauba like S100/ P21S, 476s, Meg's #16 adds to the gloss (applied every 3 months by hand). In winter, I use Optimum Spray Wax in lieu of the Carnauba paste wax and seems to hold up through the harsh Toronto winters.

    Klasse AIO+SG and topped with 'nuba is my mainstay for Silver for now. I even tried Four Star UPP/ UPP Spray on top of SG and achieved awesome slickness.
     

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